Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Guiliani, Huckabee as Strange Bedfellows

Interesting one from the New York Sun which highlights the possibility that the Guv is angling for a VP spot on a ticket with Guiliani and that Rooty is interested. This will put Rick and C.B. in an awkward position!

And by request, here is the video of Mike Huckabee making the case for giving taxpayer funded college scholarships to persons in this country illegally. ...

Weakness on illegal immigration is one of the few issues the two candidates have in common.


Anonymous c.b. said...

Tsk, tsk.
What makes me skeptical about this is the constant drumbeat of veiled referances coming from the other campaigns ie., "Huckabee will only help Guiliani" and "He just wants to be Rudy's VP".
They are obviously trying to scare voters to which Rudy is anathema, away from Huckabee.
Is it possible that at this point Gules & Huck pose less of a threat to each other than the other candidates. They do not cut into each others vote.
Huck needs to take out Romney(and hold off Thompson) in Iowa to even remain viable. Meanwhile Gules is sulely hoping Huck will take out Romney, but if that happens & Huck gets some momentum, then he will be the bigger threat. That's when the gloves will come off.

7:13 AM, November 27, 2007  
Anonymous c.b. said...

I really don't think that I am the only person smart enough to anaylize this outside of the media
template. What is happening is we are beginning to see some truly strange bedfellows..... in certain bloggers & the establishment.
The latter only recently joining the former in trying to take Huckabee out.
As long as Huck was a longshot, he was cute, funny & refreshing... now that he has a real chance they are scared. The media can't accept someone with his unshakeable social positions & the elite G.O.P. establishment now see their chosen candidates threatened.

After seeing Novak's column("The False Coservative", it could have been written about any of them, but he chose Huckabee), I have no doubt it has begun in earnest. And they just might succeed. If they do we will have lost our only real shot at having a president that wasn't bought and paid for by the elite establishment.

7:31 AM, November 27, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was bought by Tyson and George's while governor. He's definitely for sale.

10:20 AM, November 27, 2007  
Anonymous Rick said...


If the Republican establishment according to some on this site, Mark, who ever they are, were really pushing Rudy why would they want Huck out. Huck has an opportunity to do some real damage to Romney which will benefit Giuliani in the long run.

I personally would get behind a Giuliani/Huckabee ticket. Its better than any Dem ticket you could come up with.

10:38 AM, November 27, 2007  
Anonymous c.b. said...

Have you ben keeping up with the polls?
New polls in Florida & Texas show Huck in second place. In the Sunshine State, which is supposed to be Rudy's first big coup, Huck is only 9 points behind him. A new Iowa poll has Huck in first at 29% with Mitt at 27%. An Iowa win will scramble the other state's numbers.

As unlikely as it seemed a short time ago, it is becoming a real possibility that he will be a major contender for the nomination. That means he is threatening their boys.

2:29 PM, November 27, 2007  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

I think Huckabee is a bigger threat to Thompson than Romney. Just like Huck got a big boost when he won the face-off with Brownback for their common segment of the GOP, the next one he competes with for that slice is Thompson.

Romney going out would not help Huck much. Thompson going out would give Huckabee a chance to gather a big enough block of conservatives to challenge Rudy.

6:09 PM, November 27, 2007  
Anonymous c.b. said...

Thompson is the biggest threat to Thompson. He is a sinking ship.

And at this point, how can you say that Huckabee is not the single biggest threat to Romney?? If Huckabee wins Iowa that absolutely jepordizes New Hampsire for him.
If he loses both, in the words of Dick Morris, "he will never be seen or heard from again".

6:27 PM, November 27, 2007  
Anonymous Rick said...

If Huckabee wins Iowa Romney is in trouble regardless of what happens in N.H. He can't win the south being a Mormon.
I don't see Thompson in this thing past N.H.
Instead of a Giuliani/Romney race it may be a Giuliani/Huckabee race. The major problem Huck has is not enough money to compete in all states.

7:12 PM, November 27, 2007  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

I think Huck can cripple Romney in Iowa, but I don't see him catching on in New Hampshire. Romney is safe there. Then you have Michigan, where Rudy is strong but so is Romney, then Nevada with a lot of Mormons along with S.C. where Huck might have a chance to finish Thompson.

At this point I think a Huck win in Iowa (or very strong 2nd) hurts Romney but does not finish him because the dynamic of the race is different this year than most. It may go to a brokered convention for the first time in a long time, and Romney has a shot at getting a decent bundle of delegates with his money and national network.

Growth in Huckabee comes at the expense of mostly Thompson right now.

4:46 AM, November 28, 2007  

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