Friday, December 14, 2007

Dueling Arkansas Republicans In Iowa

It is well known in Republican circles that former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee feuded with the conservative members of the state Republican party during his tenure. The Ron Paul for President campaign wanted Iowans to know it too. They recently hired two former Arkansas legislators: Representative Randy Minton and State Senator Jim Holt to spend a week in Iowa telling people about the Mike Huckabee they knew. "He campaigned right and governed left" Holt told Iowans this week. Holt and Huckabee most often clashed over spending, education, and of course, illegal immigration. Minton now serves with the Arkansas Republican Assembly, whose conservative members are full of angst for the former Governor.

Huckabee did not take it lying down. He brought in several ringers of his own to tell his side of it. They include current Senator Gilber Baker, along with former legislators Doyle Webb and Doug Matayo.



Anonymous c.b. said...

I was surprised to see Jim traveling all the way to Iowa to bash Huck, despite the bad blood between them. In a conversation with him some time ago he personally told me that with the limited choices we have, and although he had many disagreements with him, Huckabee was the only person he saw that he could support. I guess something has changed.

11:06 PM, December 14, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It could be Huck's deceptive politicking on illegal aliens. His new-found "tough on the border" jazz is just too much. It moves him from an honest man where there are honest disagreements to another lying politician, made worse by his constant appeals to Christ.

4:50 AM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


5:27 AM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous c.b. said...

I have enough confidence in Jim that I don't think he would sell out for money. Much less $5000

8:23 AM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous oldblue said...

I also have heard Jim say that Mike Huckabee was probably the best candidate in the race. As he explained it Huckabee is "too willing to compromise" but that he was a "pretty conservative".

10:46 AM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with C.B. and Old Blue. I am pretty much in daily contact with Jim and I have never heard him say anything but "I can't support Huckabee any more". (For this race) Now has he in the past supported Huckabee?....Every time! But for this race he has said over and over "his policies aren't conservative and he talks right but he governs left." Also, I have heard Jim say that Huckabee is a "great communicator but his rhetoric doesn't match his record".

Also, I don't consider telling the truth and getting paid for it is "selling out". If you have ever been hired to campaign, are you not in essence telling others "don't vote for the other guy"? But your still getting paid for it... is that selling out? I beg to differ.

Just my opinion.

11:58 AM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is little wonder that Huckabee’s strongest opponents are in the ranks of Arkansas conservatives. He may have fooled them once, but they will not be fooled again. And they do not want their fellow conservatives to be fooled.

12:26 PM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of you are just ignorant little sheep that are working the will of the CFR and you don't even know it.

1:40 PM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous c.b. said...

Anony said:
"But for this race he has said over and over "his policies aren't conservative and he talks right but he governs left."

If you are in "daily contact" with Jim, ask him how Huckabee differs from every other top-tier GOP candidate in that regard and why it is so important to travel to Iowa to trash Huckabee's flaws when there are far worse in the others.
Also while you're at it ask why he didn't bother to do it before Huck was climbing in the polls & at his own expense.

Nobody has accused Jim of "selling out". In fact, I pointed out I won't accept that. I do, however, think that this is more about Jim than it is Huckabee..... This is a chance to get some press, tell his side & be heard. I might do the same in his shoes, but I'm afraid it will be counterproductive.

In the end, I'd lay odds(if I were a bettin man) that Jim ends up voting for Huck. He claims to be "undecided" & he said in that interveiw that he would have no qualms about supporting him in the general.

1:41 PM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems likely that Mr.Holt was willing enough to support Huckabee as "the lesser of two evils", until Huckabee started lying about his record. Giuliani has been more honest about his past positions than the Huckster. And I have the feeling that Mr.Holt would have a difficult time stomaching supporting a man who invokes the name of Christ in one breath, and lies through his teeth the next...

2:25 PM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous c.b. said...

Please..... I haven't heard him run away from his position. He still maintains that he supports the tuition breaks & tells us why. It opens him up to conservative critisism. I guess he could pull a Romney and brazenly switch positions & everyone would sing kum-ba-ya & say "wow he is the conservative candidate".

3:03 PM, December 15, 2007  
Blogger keeparkansaslegal said...

Huckabee supporters still seem to give the excuse that the only "Christian" thing to do with the kids of illegals was give them benefits that US citizens in other states don't have. If we reward the children of illegals, what other crime gives in-state tuition?

I wish Holt and Minton would talk about the Mexican Consulate deal. Rewarding a lazy corrupt regime with a 1.2 million dollar building behind the backs of the people of Arkansas is a lot harder to explain.

5:50 PM, December 15, 2007  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...


Maybe Holt ran out of cheeks to turn after all the verbal abuse the Huckster piled on him.

I don't see your claim about Huck not running from his record on immigration. Just for a refresher...

there is the documentation on the issue.

7:59 PM, December 15, 2007  
Anonymous Rick said...


Huckabee is not telling the full story of his positions in Arkansas when it comes to illegal immigration. Sure, he still talks about giving students in state tuition just like when he was Governor, but there is no doubt Arkansas was a sanctuary state for illegals during his term in office.

2:15 PM, December 16, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim Holt and Randy Minton admitted they had their expenses being paid for by the Ron Paul campaign...then Randy said he was for Fred Thompson. reported they were being paid $5,000 per week to campaign against Huckabee. BTW, Bobbye Holt is pregnant with their tenth child in home on bedrest. Why would he not be home with her first?

12:59 PM, December 17, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Puh-lease, not this cr@p again!

Look, Jim's not running for president. Give it a rest already.

1:31 PM, December 17, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God Jim Holt is not running for president....I will not vote or support him in any way ever again! He should be at home with his pregnant wife and his other children helping them....not being a hired gun for some wingnut like Ron Paul! Then again $5,000.00 plus expenses is nothing more than a sellout of principles and family is a priority. Bobbye deserves his presence during a trying time and when she is carrying his next child. Those are real family values.

2:12 PM, December 17, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's helping his children alright, by working to keep that socialist Huckabee out of higher office!

3:29 PM, December 17, 2007  
Anonymous c.b. said...

I would hope that this blog & the discussions here are above the childish nonsense that both sides have displayed in these last few posts.

4:35 PM, December 17, 2007  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

I must concur with C.B. We had more than enough of that bile during the last GOP Primary. Let's talk policy and performance in office folks.

6:09 PM, December 17, 2007  
Anonymous oldblue said...

there is a political motivation to keep the huckabee and holt factions of the arkansas republican party divided. i think alot of this crap is not really fights between them, but stuff put up to try to inflame bad feelings

2:54 PM, December 20, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The political motivation is the Huckster's political ambitions. Anyone who's ever had to work with Huck knows where he thinks the center of the universe is at any given moment...

4:07 PM, December 20, 2007  
Blogger MJ said...

Unfortunately not all of the division is based on personalities. A lot of it, most of it, is based on issues. The personality part is just how they react to the differences on the issues.

So the only way to resolve it is to have the debate and decide who is right on the issues.

4:11 PM, December 20, 2007  

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