Senate Divided on Special Session
Aaron Sadler wrote a piece about the proposed special session. It seems the Senate is very divided on it. Sadler contacted 28 senators. Here is a key quote, "Eighteen voters are required to pass most legislation in the Senate. On Monday, 15 senators said they opposed at least part of the education committees' package. Eight others supported the package, five said they were undecided and six others did not return telephone calls to their homes or offices seeking comment. One Senate seat is vacant following the recent death of Sen. Jerry Bookout, D-Jonesboro."
Got that? The majority contacted are against it. If we are lucky, they will stay that way.
Here is the other interesting aspect of the article. They quoted eight senators in an article on the fact that the Senate is split on having a special session and somehow managed to NOT QUOTE the most outspoken senate opponent of the special session, that being Senator Jim Holt of Springdale.
Did Holt just miss the calls or is this yet another issue where the liberal media knows that if they give Holt's position a fair hearing it will get traction with the people? Better to report around him, so that the liberal spending can continue! Inquiring minds want to know.
Got that? The majority contacted are against it. If we are lucky, they will stay that way.
Here is the other interesting aspect of the article. They quoted eight senators in an article on the fact that the Senate is split on having a special session and somehow managed to NOT QUOTE the most outspoken senate opponent of the special session, that being Senator Jim Holt of Springdale.
Did Holt just miss the calls or is this yet another issue where the liberal media knows that if they give Holt's position a fair hearing it will get traction with the people? Better to report around him, so that the liberal spending can continue! Inquiring minds want to know.
posted by Mark Moore (Moderator) at Monday, March 27, 2006
63 Comments:
The liberal media is afraid of Holt, you are right about that.
Just like a lot of Conservatives are too.
So what you are saying is that Jim Holt was trying to use this as another way to get his name in the paper, and now that it didn't work he's whinning about it? I thought he was supposed to care more about the people and less about himself. It doesn't sound like it. The only thing that should matter is they don't have the special session, not that Jim didn't get in the papers.
Big Government Republicans are the ones afraid of Holt.
5:42, You attempt to put words in the mouth of the author. You twist it all to say things in the author's name that they did not mean. The point seemed to be that maybe the media was slanting the news in favor of having the special session by ignoring its biggest critic.
Some of you phony conservatives are so desparate to slime Holt that you will put the worst possible connotation on everything associated with him. If Holt walked on water across the Arkansas River, you would complain about the way he did it.
if there were signs of a media blackout on YOUR guy, you would complain about it too, and rightfully so.
There is a reason he has a media blackout on him. Maybe you should find out why that is instead of assuming they are just out to get him.
It also affends me that you would make that comment about Holt walking on water. I don't care if it was sarcasm, Jim Holt is not Jesus, even though his followers think he is.
WE ARE NOT PHONY CONSERVATIVES JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T AGREE WITH JIM HOLT!!! What is wrong with you people. Most conservatives don't agree with Jim Holt. That is why they crossed over or didn't vote in his last race at all.
6:17
You said it best right there!
It also affends me that you would make that comment about Holt walking on water.
I think you just proved 6:03AM's point.
So what you are saying is that Jim Holt was trying to use this as another way to get his name in the paper, and now that it didn't work he's whinning about it?
As far as I know, "nom" doesn't work for Holt. Neither do I, but I'm "whinning" about it. I'm sick of the major print media in this state. There's a reason why they're out begging people to get/keep subscriptions.
It's not just Holt, but others they dislike as well. Maybe they should try to report the news and let the readers make up their own minds.
I don't know that I agree with 6:17 saying that most conservatives are against Holt. Most conservatives I know really like him. What is everyone's problem here who keep attacking him?
Revisionist history. Holt did not lose much in the way of conseravtive votes. He lost "moderates" and he lost people that he could not reach because he did not have the money to reach them.
And he still got more votes than Governor Huckabee. Also Lincoln did a good job of getting certain groups to vote for her even though they agreed more with Jim Holt on most issues. I am thinking farmers for example.
Too bad for Holt that he was not running against a snotty Yankee elitist liberal like W was. Holt could have beat Kerry in this state, even with his piddling budget.
It's also because it's Primary Elections season. The Republicans love to eat their own.
more people have voted against Holt then any other republican in one election cycle that is a fact
Ah, a Paul Graham statistic! No Holt discussion would be complete without one.
People don't vote AGAISNT the CHALLENGER! If they vote AGAINST someone it is the incumbant. That is absurd.
Are the Holt supporters getting dizzy yet? Just reading their spins make me dizzy.
Logic makes you dizzy?
Facts make these slimers dizzy. Facts presented in a logical fashion makes them pass out for extended periods of time.
Ha ha ha! The imagery there is hillarious!
Do any of you so called Holt supporters actually give money to his campaign? I can't figure out why he supposedly has all this "support" from the entire state, but no one will give him any money. Doesn't that make you wonder? If he's really that popular, his account should be overflowing.
I think the only thing that makes people pass out for extended periods of time is the Kool-Aid from Mrs. Holt. I think you should all know that you've had way too much.
Josh Dugger, grow up and quit calling people slimers...or at least come up with a more creative term.
The typical Holt supporter gives about $50. You need forty of those to match a single fat-cat 2K contribution.
Plus, Holt's supporters are family/church people who tend to have other things to do until right near election time.
5:40 said:
Plus, Holt's supporters are family/church people who tend to have other things to do until right near election time.
Which is exactly why the liberals keep getting their way on everything. Conservative Christians sit by and do nothing and penny pinch themselves into being a bunch of losers.
To be effective, the Jim Holt crowd needs to start participating in the local party meetings. They need to start running for school board. They need to run for county party chairs. (Which means they need to have gotten enough people signed up as members to sway the party chairmanship election.)
They need to participate in the local chambers of commerce. They need to participate in local charity activities.
Winning won't happen by electing one man and then throwing him to the wolves. You need to build activist support networks that can activate regularly with phone calls and email.
If the Constitution Party Caucus of the Republican Party wants to impress me, lets see some of their endorsed candidates win some J.P. elections, some school board elections. Let's see them create a PAC and fund their chosen candidates to the maximum allowed by law.
Winning in the battlefield of ideas is not just picking one candidate then going all ga-ga kool-aid over them. It weirds people out. Plus, it sets the candidate up to fail...no matter how great they are.
Have any of you good-time-rock-and-roll-plastic-banana-Christians called your local representative or senator and told them your postion on school funding?, Pre-K?, the Smoking Ban?, Jessica's Law?
Have any of you written letters to the editor about these topics? Have you had your friend together and did phone calls to voters asking them to call their representatives about these subjects?
Is there a single PAC (Political Action Committee) in this state that represents you? If so, do you participate in their activites? Do you support them financially? Do you serve on thier board?
Meh, bunch of lazy whiners. That is all you all are. If you seriously cared how the election turned out, you could raise $10,000 for a PAC in one night.
A bunch of tight-wadded lazy whiners who really don't want to do what it takes to win. Candidates are expendable, but ideas are not. That is why you need a stable of candidate AND be able to support them generously.
Oh, and stop being so freaky weird.
Amen, Amen, Amen. But they will never do it. That would take too much time away from their sofas.
It sounds like someone understands politics, not just ideology.
Bravo.
"Do any of you so called Holt supporters actually give money to his campaign? I can't figure out why he supposedly has all this "support" from the entire state, but no one will give him any money. Doesn't that make you wonder? If he's really that popular, his account should be overflowing."
Why is it Holt supporters always ignore the important questions. They don't want to answer questions like these, because it forces them to look at the truth.
Please, keep on ranting. Your asinine assumptions and ridiculous accusations really show your true colors. You're demonstrating precisely why true conservatives are fed up with you country club RINOs.
You still didn't answer the question. I'm demonstrating that "true conservatives" are tired of people not putting their money where their mouth is.
Your answer gave me all the information I needed. Holt has no support.
Ha ha ha! Okay, man! I'm sure he'll be devastated when word gets around that an anonymous country clubber on Arkansas Watch has determined his race is unwinnable.
I actually don't belong to a country club, but are you trying to say there is something wrong with people that do? Why do Holt supporters have to put everyone into a specific category. You are the most unchristian group of people I've ever seen. That should worry you.
I'm sure Holt won't be devestated that I've determined his race as unwinnable. He WILL be devestated when he doesn't win and has no job and no way of supporting his family. He SHOULD be devestated that such a large group of people no longer see him as a christian man. If you call yourself a christian, you should at least TRY and act like one. You might want to do your friend a favor and tell him that so many people are questioning his salvation. That is a much bigger deal than telling him what is written about him on these blogs concerning politics.
He needs to spend less time running for a race he won't win and more time on his knees asking for forgiveness for all the sins he's committed. That goes for all of us, but the difference is, most of us repent when we have been caught in a lie. Instead he keeps spreading lies, over and over and over.
You are a sad and condescending little man.
How did I know that is what you'd say. I could have written your response myself. Typical and pathetic.
Well then, at least someone's brought it to your attention in the past.
Not the case at all. I just know how closed minded Holt supporters are. You refuse to look at any truth even when it's staring you in the face. Your beliefs are built on lies and it saddens me. I like people that can make decisions on their own and not rely on people to make them for them. It's cultish behavior.
Holt leveled some pretty serious charges about his opponents to someone I know at a bookstore a few weeks back. Pretty girl...long blond hair... I'm sure he would remember her. More than a little offended.
Just what are the lies that Senator Holt are telling? Please explain yourself. You keep calling him a liar, so please explain!!!!!!!!!
What were the charges?
Why do Holt supporters have to put everyone into a specific category. You are the most unchristian group of people I've ever seen.
I love it when a slimer contradicts himself in the course of two consecutive sentences. Do you even read what you type? Do you actually expect anyone else to believe it?
As far as the "Country Club Republican" term goes, it's a term invented, not by me, but by others who are fed up with moneyed liberals buying their way into the party. I personally have nothing against country clubs or their members in general.
Who are the moneyed liberals you are talking about? I'm sure you must know a few. And as for the charges, do you really want to know, or would you slam back and claim them to be untrue without really listening? For the record, I've never called Holt a liar. I said he leveled some serious charges--that is hardly calling him names. But I think you just answered my earlier question: you don't really want to know--you just lied about me.
Hang on there, bud. You're confusing the references, I believe. The first one mentioning the lies (11:22, by ?) was in reference to the 9:53 post. The second one (which I posted), mentioning "the charges" was referring to YOUR post. No one called you a liar.
11:43--No doubt. If I tallied up everytime I saw "Holt supporters always..." or "They always..." on this thread, I'm sure it would outnumber any other particular group mentioned. And didn't I just read a post describing how poor, lazy, and whiney conservatives who support people like Holt are?
I will certainly be glad when this primary is over. I am so SICK of reading this cannabalistic garbage.
You are correct, however--I don't care what "charges" you've heard from so-and-so who knows the girl at the bookstore.
Lol!
11:59 "I will certainly be glad when this primary is over. I am so SICK of reading this cannabalistic garbage."
Then why are you reading it? Is someone holding a gun to your head? You are free to leave this site anytime you want.
Senator Holt has been caught in several lies. These are lies that have been proven and he knows what they are. Why don't you tell me anything that the other 2 candidates have lied about. Most of Holt's lies have been about personal matters. Remember, these are lies being told to destroy someones personal reputation. I'm not sure about Banks, but I've never heard of Matayo being accused of lying about anything.
Yaaaaaaaaawn!
Juvenile. Boring. Silly.
11:22 said I keep calling Holt a liar, which is untrue because I have never referred to him that way, so that is in fact a lie. That is what I was referring to. Ask Holt about the blond girl. If he blinks, you'll know I'm telling the truth. But I believe 12:02...you really don't care. You like to live in fantasy land.
I admit it. I don't care what you have to say.
12:37 and 12:38 Thank you for agreeing that Matayo has not lied about anything. He is a man of his word.
Holt was with a blonde girl? Isn't his wife a brunette?
Uh oh. You almost got caught checking those computer ID's again. I've never seen anyone delete a comment so fast. Be careful, non-Holt supporters. Next they'll find out who you are and where you live, and then one night you'll see a rock flying through your window.
Delted comment? I guess he didn't want to falsely imply anything about you. Now, if we could only get the same level of honesty out of you!
I saw the deleted comment also...don't try to hide what you're doing. Be careful, people!
What did it say? What was so "bad" about it? Let us in on this "conspiracy"!
It said something about 12:37, 12:38, and 12:45 all being the same poster.
Ewwwww! What a terrible thing to delete "so fast"!
Hysterical!
Ha ha! You don't mean to imply that some people are posting anonymously, and then replying to their own posts! I'm sure they wouldn't stoop to such lows!
Yes, but not in that instance, which is why I deleted it (it was my own post). Sorry for disrupting the "topic" at hand.
It doesn't matter what was said. The point is that everyone in control of this site is posting anonymous, deleting comments so that we won't know that they are checking up on us. They are in the business of invading privacy, so don't be surprised when they find out who you are. That is what they are trying to do. If you are posting from home, I don't recommend it. Luckily some people are smart enough not to do that.
No apology needed! This conversation has already been repeated on several other threads anyway!
1:26a, you are free to go elsewhere, you know... Most blogs don't even let you post unless you have an account. This is a step up, in my opinion.
Yes, back to the "topic" at hand. If a crocodile has eaten up everyone around you, would you still invite it into your home because it's never hurt your family or is it better to avoid the crocodile completely?
I think a better analogy would be, "Would you rather listen to those who encourage you to wager money on a roulette wheel known to be rigged, or would you rather have a good game of chess with a friend?"
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