Thursday, April 27, 2006

Holt Campaign Answer to Today's Demo-Zette Editorial

"Caution, Ill-Will Ahead". That was the title of the unsigned Democrat-Gazette editorial on April 27th. There was ill-will aplenty, and it was all pouring in from their side. They were enraged that Senator Jim Holt would have the gall to suggest that illegal aliens should not have automatic access to your pockets to pay for their routine medical care.

They wrote that this is “…a preview of what the whole state can expect if Jim Holt is our next lieutenant governor, and it isn’t pretty: Four abrasive years of arguing over how mean we can legally be to the strangers in our midst.” No doubt the liberal media is very abrasive, after all they railed at us for being so primitive as to stop homosexuals from redefining marriage. Any time we dare to stand up to them to defend our culture and earnings we are at risk of another scolding from their enlightened liberal keyboards.

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86 Comments:

Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

Their definition of “mean” is that we don’t want the government to take our tax dollars that come from our family’s earnings (under the threat of imprisonment if we refuse to comply) and use them to pay for the routine, non-emergency medical care of illegal aliens. See how that works: The illegal aliens are not mean for breaking into our country and taking money that belongs to us, we are mean because we want to hold onto what we have earned.

Understand that no one wants to deny emergency medical treatment to anyone, regardless of ability to pay or citizenship. Senator Holt does not want to deny anyone routine medical treatment, such as pre-natal care, either. He simply wants the illegal aliens to pay for their own routine medical care instead of using the government to force you to pay for it. And we pay for it directly in taxes and indirectly when hospital emergency rooms have to eat the costs of care they provide or pass it on to the rest of us. And for that he feels the scorn of the Democrat-Gazette and his two primary opponents who seem to share the establishment presses’ special brand of “compassion”.

One can almost see the spittle flying from their lips as the Democrat-Gazette wrote, “Should we the people treat strangers—ILLEGAL ALIENS!—in our emergency rooms when they show up hurt or sick and with no place else to turn to?” But of course that is not the issue and they know it, so they go on to qualify it….

“But the oh-so-serious debate goes on: Should we pass a state law denying illegal immigrants medical treatment? Jim Holt’s campaign manager explains that we can feel comfortable with such a law on the books because federal law prohibits hospital emergency rooms from turning away the poor and desperate. No harm done, you see. Once again we in Arkansas can count on the feds to see that we act decently.”

Their problem is they rely on each other’s misinformation to commit character assassination rather than call or email me, the campaign manager in question, to get the real story. They would not even have to go that far. In an article on April 25th on arkansaswatch.blogspot.com blog I give three well-documented reasons that SB206, the bill from Senator Holt that has them raving so hysterically, would not deny anyone emergency medical services under either state or federal law. It is still up if anyone wants the documentation.

That is right, SB206 would not pre-empt even our state laws that mandate emergency rooms provide emergency medical care regardless of ability to pay, and yes even citizenship. So we don’t need the feds to see that we act decently, except perhaps for those among us who use their vast power as editorial writers to attempt character assassination based on misinformation.

They continue, “Jim Holt’s campaign manager, Mark Moore, sounds as if he couldn’t care less about the pre-natal check-ups and diet supplements needed to assure healthy babies—not if they would benefit ILLEGAL ALIENS!” Again, at some point people need to assume individual responsibility for their own lives rather than expect our government to do it for them at taxpayer expense- they especially should not expect our government to do it for them if they are not citizens of our government. No one is denying them even routine medical care, we would just like to deny them access to your pockets to pay for it. I will keep it simple: if you feel you should continue to pay for the routine medical care of illegal aliens, vote for Mr. Banks or Rep. Matayo. If you feel that you should not have to pay for it then your candidate is Senator Jim Holt.

Senator Holt believes that with the benefits of living in the U.S. comes responsibility. If there was a major war would the illegal aliens using our benefits stay around and risk their lives to help defend our country, or would they simply melt away into the night?

I cannot conclude without noting that the editors used a scripture to support their position that it was immoral to deny illegal aliens any privilege or benefit to which our own citizens are entitled. That was Leviticus 19:33-34 which reads, “And if a stranger sojourns with thee in your land, you shall not vex him. 34 but the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt. I am the Lord your God.”

I am grateful that they bring the authority of scripture into this question, because I do believe that Scripture is God-inspired and the highest presentation of Divine moral truth available to man. Still, perfect truth may be imperfectly understood, especially when divorced from diligent study and the illumination of the Holy Spirit that comes from a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Without both these two things those same words that bring life can be used to promulgate error.

In this case the word “stranger” in the Hebrew (“gare”) has a primary translation of “guest”. Look it up in Strong’s Concordance for yourself. Leviticus 19 does not refer to people who entered the country illegally. Instead they were strangers like “ye were strangers in the land of Egypt”. The Hebrews were invited into Egypt by the legal government of that country. They were legal aliens. Further, the Children of Israel were ordered in Exodus 23:31-33 to drive out certain corrupting inhabitants of the land and keep them out (“they shall not dwell in thy land”). In other words, Israel had the right and duty to secure her borders. The idea that God wanted the Children of Israel forced to pay taxes to provide non-emergency medical care to any Canaanites who slipped back into the land is as farcical as the attempts of the Democrat-Gazette and certain of Senator Holt’s opponents to use Leviticus 19 as “proof” we are somehow less Christian because of our support for SB206.

8:12 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no doubt that Jim Holt is treated too roughly by the media.

8:21 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"if you feel you should continue to pay for the routine medical care of illegal aliens, vote for Mr. Banks or Rep. Matayo. If you feel that you should not have to pay for it then your candidate is Senator Jim Holt."

And if you feel that you should have to pay for free daycare for illegal aliens, vote for Jim Holt, because he raised your taxes to do so. No more excuses Mark, just the facts. Holt is the only one of the 3 that has voted to raise taxes. And as Lt. Gov, Jim Holt will not be able to do ANYTHING to stop illegal immigration or be able to stop them from getting medical care. Be honest. Don't make people think that he can do something when he can't and won't. No one will even work with him. They never have and never will.

8:40 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you E, A or P? you are the only three who are bonkers enough to say something like that. you think Jim Holt, who wants to deny all public benefits not federally mandated to illegal aliens, wants them to get taxpayer supported day care?

and he has voted for exactly one tax in his career- a temp. beer tax he has voted to repeal ever since. every conservative organization in the states rates him as anti-tax, but you three keep recycling your same tired spin that somehow all those other people are wrong and Holt is a big tax guy. that is nuts and so are you if you believe it.

SB206 will do something. If the current bunch won't work with him, because they are liberals who pose as conservatives like Matayo, then get enraged when they get caught, then the next bunch may be more inclined to....especially when he wins statewide!

9:24 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got a push card in the mail today from chuck banks is it just me or is he , kinda begging for votes

10:48 PM, April 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"because they are liberals who pose as conservatives like Matayo"

Matayo is the furthest thing from a liberal and everyone knows that except Holt supporters. Maybe that is because you are all so incredibly extreme that you think the most conservative republicans are now liberals. That's nuts.

"you think Jim Holt, who wants to deny all public benefits not federally mandated to illegal aliens, wants them to get taxpayer supported day care?"

Just as much as Matayo wants all illegals to go to college for free but they have to walk to college to get there because he won't allow them to get a drivers license. Holt supporters are the only ones who "are bonkers enough to say something like that".

"every conservative organization in the state rates him as anti-tax" I won't comment on this one, except that is just funny.

5:20 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Got a push card in the mail today from chuck banks is it just me or is he , kinda begging for votes"

It's called campaigning. Wasn't Holt the one that was recently begging everyone for $5.00. I guess that's why you haven't received one of his in the mail, he can't afford to mail them.

5:26 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Emily (not related to Matayo) said...

Get out of this Republican party Jim and Mark! You ARE NOT Republican - you are of the Constitution Party. This is the exact same thing as if a Democrat ran a Republican's race!

6:30 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger jppaulgraham said...

Nope voting to repeal a tax credit is a vote to raise taxes. Here is the proof he did that.

Jim Holt's votes to repeal Tax Credit
Bill Status: SB776 Sponsor: Revenue & Tax - Senate
REPEALS THE FEDERAL SOCIAL SECURITY (OASDI) TAX CREDIT, ALSO KNOWN AS THE WORKING TAXPAYER CREDIT.
Senate - Apr 22 2003 10:30:39 - Notification that SB776 is now Act 1724 Senate - Apr 17 2003 9:05:44 - DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR. Senate - Apr 17 2003 9:04:27 - Reported correctly enrolled and ordered delivered to the Governor. Senate - Apr 16 2003 5:51:15 - ORDERED ENROLLED Senate - Apr 16 2003 5:48:10 - Returned from the House as passed. House - Apr 16 2003 3:34:45 - Returned To the Senate as passed. House - Apr 16 2003 3:34:34 - EMERGENCY CLAUSE ADOPTED - House - Apr 16 2003 3:29:33 - Read the third time and passed and ordered transmitted to the Senate. House - Apr 10 2003 1:15:01 - Returned by the Committee Do Pass House - Mar 20 2003 4:35:05 - Read the first time, rules suspended, read the second time and referred to the Committee on REVENUE & TAXATION- HOUSE House - Mar 20 2003 3:23:28 - RECEIVED FROM THE SENATE Senate - Mar 20 2003 3:05:08 - Ordered immediately transmitted to the House. Senate - Mar 20 2003 3:02:43 - Read the third time and passed. - Senate - Mar 19 2003 2:14:09 - Returned by the Committee, with the recommendation that it Do Pass Senate - Mar 10 2003 2:15:28 - Read first time, rules suspended, read second time, referred to Senate Committee on Revenue and Taxation

Yeas: 33
Argue Baker Bisbee J. Bookout Broadway Brown Bryles Capps Critcher
Faris Glover Gullett Hendren Higginbothom Hill Holt Horn G. Jeffress J. Jeffress
B. Johnson Laverty Luker Madison Malone Miller Salmon T. Smith Steele Trusty
Whitaker Wilkins Wilkinson Wooldridge

6:39 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

emily not (directly) related to Matayo,

Jim Holt has consistently said he is not Constitution Party. And I have not seen anything the CP believes that isn't conservative anyway!

6:46 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jpPaulGraham- how does it feel to be a liar? We've been over that vote a hundred times on this blog alone! You know the clerk incorrectly recorded that vote.

You are a disgrace to Washington county.

6:48 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just as much as Matayo wants all illegals to go to college for free but they have to walk to college to get there because he won't allow them to get a drivers license.

Ah, but Matayo ran the federally mandated REAL ID Act only after he took alot of heat for voting for illegal alien scholarships. He begged Hutchinson to let him pass the driver's license bill in order to give him some cover with his rightfully outraged constituents.

Matayo is ALL SHOW, just like he brags about not voting for tax increases while he votes for billions in new spending. He'll let someone else take the fall for having to raise the taxes needed to pay for his liberal spending.

6:53 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Paul, an insult from a Holt supporter has to be taken as a high compliment. I'm sure by now you know that.

Wow, the clerk must have incorrectly recorded all of Holt's votes. I've seen that excuse on several of his votes now.

6:57 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"only after he took alot of heat for voting for illegal alien's free daycare." I guess that is why Holt now makes excuses about that vote.

"He begged Hutchinson to let him pass the driver's license bill in order to give him some cover with his rightfully outraged constituents." Matayo's constituents are in Springdale. They love him. I've never heard any of them complain about Matayo, except for Holt. Holt on the other hand is hated by Springdale. I wonder what that says about the two men from Sprindale. One they like, the other they don't. I guess only one of them is working for their constituents and the other is working for himself. Holt doesn't live in Jonesboro. Does he realize this?

7:03 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:57, Alright! We have something EASY to prove. Why don't you post the link to any of the threads where Holt supporters claim the clerk incorrectly recorded the vote. Since there are SEVERAL, you shouldn't have a problem.

I won't hold my breath, but this is your chance to show you are not simply a lying slimer.

7:05 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger jppaulgraham said...

Holt voted for the same amount of spending as Matayo.

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF REVENUE STABILAZTION?

Revenue Stabilization prioritizes spending

a) The State can not spend any money until the receive the Taxes
b) then the state funds category A then B then C
c) Jim Holt voted for Revenue Stabilization.

Holt voted to raise taxes so that the state could spend more money VIA Revenue Stabilization.

Thank you for calling me a disgrace to Washington County at least I have not voted for new taxes after saying I would not.

The fact is Jim Holt was not there and his vote was count as a Yes vote to repeal the tax. I think if you check you will see I have not misses any tax votes. You know I have attacked Holt’s record without calling him names or saying mean thing about him.

7:09 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact is Jim Holt was not there and his vote was count as a Yes vote to repeal the tax.

Why don't you address what I said? I never said that Holt's vote wasn't counted as a Yes vote, I said that it was incorrectly counted.

You are on a mission to destroy an honorable man, that's why.

7:13 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When did I ever say I saw it on a thread?

"He begged Hutchinson to let him pass the driver's license bill in order to give him some cover with his rightfully outraged constituents." Can you show me your proof for that comment? Please don't ask for proof when you can't provide it yourself. If you want to be taken at your word, then you'll have to extend the same courtesy.

7:14 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice dodge. Where's the link?

7:18 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You are on a mission to destroy an honorable man, that's why."

Can you please show me your proof that Jim Holt is an honorable man? I have proof that says otherwise, in the form of 7 people that he has outright lied to. None of the 7 know eachother, so it isn't a conspiracy to destroy Holt. One of these men is a well know, highly respected pastor, and everyone will believe him over Holt, I can assure you. Especially since there are 6 others to back it up. No one is out to destroy Holt, he is doing it to himself.

7:19 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:18 I said there is no link. Now where is your proof?

7:20 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger jppaulgraham said...

The point is Jim Holt claims to be a full time Senator.

Where was he?

7:24 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Banks and Matayo did the right thing, as christian men, when they confronted Holt about the lies. I wish he had done the right thing, as a christian man, in return.

7:37 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Harvey Edwards said...

If it is mean to stand up and proclaim that you believe that whats illegal to be that then I too am mean. And to prove that point, today as I petition to be placed on the ballot I will keep the sun out of my eyes by wearing my US Border Patrol ballcap. Why should folks with strong convictions bend to suit every left idea that comes along?

7:37 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Harvey, why don't you stand up and wear that cap on Monday at the rallies? If you're going to take a stand, be strong and be willing to take that stand where it matters. Not just when you think it's safe. I'm curious to see the outcome. Take Jim and Mark with you and give them a cap too. Stand firm on your beliefs, men. Be tough.

7:42 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:19, I find that hard to believe when you (E, A, and P) spend your entire day, everyday, on this and other blogs reassuring us that Holt is a terrible person. It seems to me that if he's so bad, he wouldn't need help from you three.

Of course, you have your buddy/relative/candidate to support...

7:54 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, not everything is online. The memos that are attached to the votes are not online, just the votes. If there is a memo in the record saying the vote was recorded in error as a roll call when it was a voice vote and Holt did not vote for such and such that would not be on the internet. You would have to go to the capitol and go through the physical records to find it.

Don't bother though, because these people are determined to believe that Holt is guilty no matter what you show them. Did they even miss a beat over that sign fiasco? They claimed Holt people stole Matyo signs and used the Matayo posts. Holt's campaign manager goes to the Highway Department and takes a picture of Matayo signs lying in the pile of signs that they pulled up because they were improperly placed too close to the road. They don't care. They claim that posts are not in the photo, as if that is supposed to mean Holt stole them. The Holt team provides a photo from another angle that clearly shows the Highway department takes them posts and all. THEY DON'T CARE!

They say now they have 7 witnesses, well then they said they have business men all over that were willing to talk. They were gonna use security cameras and all this garbage. None of their alleged witnessess came forward then and I doubt they will now.

There is something about Matayo's personality that attracts viscious people that are not well grounded in reality.

Here is a url, go read about how crazy the Holt-haters are for yourself...

http://arkansaswatch.blogspot.com/2006/04/sign-gate-mystery-solved.html

Even if you showed them the picture, they would not care!

8:10 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is useless to resist us. You will be assimilated...

Ha ha!

8:27 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder why Banks people are now talking about Holt people stealing their signs and replacing them with Holt signs? Sound familiar? It actually happened at the home of someone on Banks' staff. Coincidence? I don't think so. Sorry guys. You can come up with a million excuses, but it doesn't work. It's happening and that is all that matters.

I knew it was true when a member of Hutchinson's campaign said they knew it would happen so they weren't surprised when it did. No one else was either. They said it happened last time Holt ran.

And the photo of the Matayo sign that was "too close to the road in Bentonville", the sign is still there. Bentonville never removed it and they are extremely strict on signs. I guess your theory didn't add up. I wouldn't be surprised if you took your stollen Matayo signs with you to the street department for your little photo op. You can't prove that you didn't. I guess you had to remove the evidence somehow. You were pretty desperate to cover up your crime. If Matayo had been accused of such a thing, a simple denial would've been the response. He wouldn't try and "prove it" because his word means something. Obviously Holt's does not. It really was comical watching you try and cover it up.

If you're accused of the same crime from 2 different people, the odds are against you.

8:27 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I wouldn't be surprised if you took your stollen Matayo signs with you to the street department for your little photo op. You can't prove that you didn't. I guess you had to remove the evidence somehow. You were pretty desperate to cover up your crime."

cukoo-cukoo-cukoo

8:31 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I find that hard to believe when you (E, A, and P) spend your entire day, everyday, on this and other blogs reassuring us that Holt is a terrible person."

Wow. Seriously, entire day, everyday? I wonder why this site never gets any posts? I see plenty of threads with 0 posts. The only person I ever see spending their entire day on blogs is Mark Moore trying to assure everyone that Holt really is a good guy, even though the evidence says otherwise.

Can I have your proof please? I only see anonymous postings.

8:35 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:31 I knew that is what you hear in your head all day. Try real words. You'll look a little less insane that way.

8:36 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you're accused of the same crime from 2 different people, the odds are against you.

Should read:
If you're [the lead candidate, and you are] accused of the same crime from [both of your desperate opponents], the odds are against you [being seriously accused by anyone else].

8:57 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya know, there are some other good conservatives running races around this state. I'd like to here more about them from the Arkansas Watch Blog. Perhaps your readers could contribute some cash and volunteer time to thier campaigns.

Here are a few:
Andy Mayberry
Kelly Link
Donna Hutchinson

9:11 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:57 If they are the ones that are desperate, then why aren't they the ones stealing Holt's signs? That would make more sense. The only one who is desperate here is the one who has to resort to stealing signs. Did you really need that spelled out to you?

9:19 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean, Holt is the one accused by anonymous posters of stealing campaign signs.

Listen, sign theft happens to just about every candidate EVERY election. It's happened to the Holt-for-Lt. Gov. campaign, too. The difference is, they aren't whining about it, making wild accusations that Doug and Chuck are the thieves.

Grow up.

9:24 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can tell that these people aren't used to running statewide campaigns.

By the way, I spit on people who steal campaign signs. That's a form of free speech suppression that should not be tolerated.

9:27 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can tell that these people aren't used to running statewide campaigns.

Banks and Matayo?

9:28 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes- the ones making the wild accusations.

9:29 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

Well, to be fair, I haven't heard Matayo or Banks actually make the accusations, only their anonymous posters.

9:31 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There have been lots of threads about other races, they just don't seem to get the interest the GOP Lt. Gov. race does, on this blog or the other main one.

Hey, there is a thread about the Supreme Court races on this page that has been up a while, what does it have, 5 posts?

The "Voting Machines Not REady, Capitol Dome Priority" thread is really about the Secretary of State's race. How many posts does that have? About none.

At least the Aaron Wolfe release about the Dems switching parties got 20, but I think half of those were about the Lt. Gov race too!

9:36 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you have seen any of Holt signs being replaced by Banks or Matayo signs, please speak up. We'd love to hear it. We aren't talking about them just being removed. We're talking about them being cut off the posts and replaced with Holt signs. If that has happened to Jim Holt, then we want to know. I wonder what would happen if a Holt sign was taken from Moore or Emery's lawn and replaced with a Banks sign? I'm sure you'd be sreaming about it. I guess Banks and Matayo supporters follow the law.

9:45 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Real brilliant. Obviously Holt is behind this. He personally goes to the house of someone who supports his opponent and replaces their sign with a Holt sign, hoping they don't notice.

9:52 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

I thought Holt stole the posts along with the signs! Now he just cuts the signs loose and replaces them with his own>

9:55 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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9:57 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

You're sick, but we didn't need that last insult to tell us that.

10:00 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry Mr. Toast. That quote came form Deb herself. She is one of Holt's biggest fans and she wrote that herself. Believe me, I wish she hadn't. It took me an entire day to get that picture out of my head. I'm sure you are now having the same mental picture.

10:04 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

That's because you're a pervert.

10:07 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a pretty harsh statement coming from someone who has never met me. I don't think you should judge people like that. God is my defender.

You are the one who claimed it to be an insult, instead of reading it the way Deb intended. Please, no more hypocritical name calling.

10:19 AM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

Yeah, drag your (version of) god into it. That'll give you credibility.

10:24 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I subscribe to the DemGaz because it is a well put together paper, even though I appreciate the perspective of the Morning News more. This editorial only strengthens my position. They nailed only one, but probably the major argument against Holt.
Holt bandies himself like he represents a majority of Arkansas voters but really advocates for a slim and contentious minority. I should know, my mother is a big Holt fan and her rational mirrors other supporters. It is based on misinformation and an appeal to the lowest common denominator - fear.
Fear of losing the status quo, that is not not not not not not not not not not notnotn otn tontontotnotnonton protected by the constitution. The constitution is an inclusive document, but Holt and the Constitution Party are exclusive.
The openess and ability to adapt to contemporary situations is one of the hallmarks of the beloved document. That does not mean it is a "living" document in the way liberals use the term, but it also means that it shouldn't be used to bait lay-persons into thinking that it protects opinions instead of principles.

10:28 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are the one who claimed it to be an insult, instead of reading it the way Deb intended.

You chose to single out Deb's statement, how did you know mr. toast wasn't referring to the preceding accusation of the same post- the accusation that Holt supporters are stealing signs?

Two can play your twisted game.

I agree- you're a pervert.

10:49 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya'll should lay off Jim now. He has it bagged. No need to get too devisive.

11:19 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Emily Fulton (see, I'm not related to Matayo. But you'll probably say I am anyway) said...

Nobel Prize winning staunch conservative Paul Greenberg wrote the article that was on the editorial section of the DemGaz.

11:34 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:49 "You're sick, but we didn't need that LAST insult to tell us that."

If you can't read, then get someone to read it to you, and then post. Look, still no name calling. Try it sometime.

11:52 AM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm content with letting the reader decide who the pervert is on this thread. My vote has already been counted.

12:47 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha ha! "Staunch conservative Greenburg." That's a good one!

12:50 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey pervert,

I saw you gleefully celebrating that distorted comment of deb's at the original ArkFam blog on which it was written. Most people didn't even comment on it, just you and tweedle-dumb.

You're the kind of juvenile mind that makes a lewd comment about a woman and then accuses everyone else of being as lustful as you are. You can't possibly conceive that anyone does not get a kick out of being perverted.

1:03 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

1:12 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like Bacon on tuesdays and sometimes the voices make me choose candian bacon even though I have told them "dang it im an American give me some country bacon", Instead of fighting them I mow my lawn with scissors that I stole from Chuck Banks campaign office. Sometimes on rainy days I set in my Bass boat in my driveway
and wait for the water to get high enough , but it never does,So I come back in and check the voices favorite site on my dell, (which is located in my attic in case the water does decide to rise)Arkansas Watch, But im dismayed at all the negative junk so I go sit in my Bass boat and wait for the water to rise.

THE POINT OF MY CRAZY RANT IS THAT IT MAKES AS MUCH SINCE AS ALOT OF YOUR COMMENTS, ITS BLIND,HAS NO POINT AND FULL ON NONSENSE!

3:05 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay...

You know, no one is forcing you to read or post on this blog. In fact, feel free to lose yourself in the rest of what the internet has to offer!

3:13 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cukoo, cukoo, cukoo!

3:17 PM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

Actually, 3:05 is right. It is a bunch of nonsense. The problem is, it's a bunch of nonsense usually hurled at Jim Holt. I will not let these hacks make their accusations unanswered.

They've been proved liars countless times, but they keep coming back, and back, and back.

3:24 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I will not let [the PEA squad] make their accusations unanswered."

3:29 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PEA squad! Ha ha!

3:35 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh goodness its raining , I have to go Yea!!

3:40 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr toast , my crazy rant was aimed at thoses that through the nonsense at Jim Holt , I apologize if you got caught in the crossfire it was not aimed at your posts

3:43 PM, April 28, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

Heh, that's the way crazy rants go, I suppose!

Thanks for the moral support!

3:47 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:24 What proof? I've NEVER seen you offer any proof before. Don't claim to have something that you don't have. Please do not call someone a liar when you don't have the proof. The difference between you and me is that I have the proof of what Jim has done and he has been confronted on it just like we are supposed to do as christians. If you have PROOF of any lies being told about Jim Holt then confront the person telling them face-to-face. But be careful when you call someone a liar. And anyonymous posts are not proof. They could come from anyone, that is why they are anonymous. Give me posts with names on them where someone has lied about Jim Holt. You proved earlier that you do not know where these posts are coming from when you said "emily" was Matayo's relative, when she proved she wasn't. I've seen Paul Graham post his name on here everytime and he's never lied about Jim Holt. He's only stuck to the issues. Show me one lie Paul Graham has told about Jim Holt. I bet you can't.

I understand that you are upset because of the accusations against your candidate. I'm sure everyone gives you credit for sticking up for your candidate. When people bring Jim Holt proof that he has been spreading lies about them, and he still denies it, then there is something wrong with Jim Holt. Chuck Banks, Doug Matayo, Mark Martin and Jay Martin are not out to get Jim Holt. They just want him to do the right thing and stop lying about them. Do you really think that those 4 men got together and hired people to say Jim told them a lie about those men? Why would 4 different men have the same story, with proof, that Jim told the same lie about all of them? You can't defend that. It's sad if you try.

4:21 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Paul Graham has been caught posting on here as anonymous, then denying it, then having Emily post on his behalf. They're full of lies. (By the way, anonymous@6:46 said Emily was not directly related to Matayo, probably because emily is the name of Matayo's sister-in-law, and she posts here non-stop)

Sign gate, just debunked, again, on this thread.

The lie about Holt voting to end the OASDI tax credit, debunked, for the umpteenth time, on this thread.

Then there was "SurveyUSA gate" where you people accused Mark of changing the colors of the survey graph to make Matayo and Banks look bad.

Oh, I could go on.

And this not to mention all of the personal assaults hurled at Jim, on this and other blogs. Many of these accusations can't be proven/disproven per se, but are so ridiculous that no one believes them.

You've got a lot of nerve hanging around here and lecturing us. I'm with Toast-you are free to leave and never post your trash on AW again. Of course, you won't leave, because this is the thrust of your pathetic campaign.

See you at the polls.

4:51 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How does she post here nonstop? I've never seen anyone use names. How can you accuse someone of posting nonstop if they don't put their names on them?

You still haven't given any proof of lies, only your opionion. That doesn't count for anything. You were asked for proof and couldn't come up with any. One side has proof and the other doesn't. Odds are in favor of the ones with proof. Come up with some and you'll have credibility.

5:20 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is known, Emily. It is known.

5:25 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The voices tell me that candian bacon is really just ham , man oh man

6:34 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:10 I don't know what street department you took those pictures of Matayo's signs at. But it certainly wasn't in Siloam Springs, because we checked there personally, after they were taken, thinking maybe that's what happened to them. There were none there and we were shown where they would be. Somebody took them and the posts. Each of them were on private property, put there with permission.

8:32 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I quit my job today , just to stay home and post all day

10:00 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...emily is the name of Matayo's sister-in-law, and she posts here non-stop)"

How would you know that unless you have, oh, tapped into her computer? I guess Holt did work in the NSA and would know how to do that sort of thing...
Is something illegal going on here?

10:03 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm... Please answer.

10:03 PM, April 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's what I thought--you got caught and now you have nothing to say. You know, it's very easy to figure out if someone has hacked into your computer, phone line, etc.
How many other illegal activities is the Holt campaign going to engage in? Just curious.

7:13 AM, April 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Silence is usually a sign of guilt. Nice campaign you're running, Moore.
Did you get their credit card info and social security number as well?
Quit stalking people.

1:46 PM, April 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is known, Emily. It is known.

5:25 PM "

If you guys are so smart, why don't you tell me what my name is?

The only thing that is known is that Holt, Moore, Deb, and all the other followers are insane.

1:49 PM, April 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you mudslingers were behaving yourselves, you wouldn't have to feel ashamed, guilt-ridden, and paranoid, would you?

9:08 PM, April 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, none of the above apply. But thank you for supplying your reasons for trying to cover up your crimes.

Why don't you talk to anyone that has ran against Matayo and see if any of the accusations you've made were true last time. Many of us have talked to Holt's past opponents and even people that have worked on his other campaigns. You might be interested in the things they have to say. I've talked to several people that he asked to work on his campaign and they all said "not a chance", they know how he and his followers opperate. Bad reputations are not easy to reverse. Maybe the voters need to know what these people know. I guarantee they wouldn't vote for him if they did.

6:37 AM, April 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:37 am,
Since you think that you know all about Jim Holts campaign moves, why don't you enlighten us. Put up or shut up.

11:25 AM, April 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:37 am,
Since you think that you know all about Jim Holts campaign moves, why don't you enlighten us. Put up or shut up.

11:25 AM, April 30, 2006  
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