Saturday, July 29, 2006

"Boston Tea Party" Spirit Displayed at Animal ID Meeting

CROWD BOOS GOVERNMENT SPEAKER

Should you be unfamiliar with Animal ID, Doreen Hannes, one of the speakers at the Conway meeting explains it this way:

"The NAIS (National Animal Identification System), the shortest explanation that can be given of the proposed system is that anyone who has any type of livestock, say two chickens, will have to register their property, complete with global positioning satellite coordinates, microchip their chickens with an NAIS ISO11785 compliant chip, and report within 24 hours if said chickens ever leave the property, hatch out chicks (another chip required), go to the vet, or die. No kidding . It will require you to mark your animal in order to be able to buy and sell" 1 Any violation such as failing to report transfer of the animals could result in $1,000 fine or more for each incident. 2

Another opponent of animal ID describes it this way: "The NAIS would actually subject the owner of a horse [or any other animal] to far more surveillance than the owner of a gun. You can freely take a shotgun to your neighbor’s property, but if your children ride their ponies there, that will have to be registered with the government." 3

Jane Williams, founder of ARAPA, Arkansas Animal Producer's Association, who organized the meeting, told the large crowd of 300 or more assembled in Conway on July 9, 2006. "The proposed USDA (United States Department of Agriculture) guidelines, published April 25, 2005, would prohibit an animal owner from taking an animal off of the owner's land unless that owner filed an application with the USDA for a FPI and then attached or injected an identification device in or on the animal on the farm or at a tagging facility." This information is included in her written "Testimony Submitted at the request of Senator Lincoln to the US Committee on Agriculture." 4

The highlight of this meeting, opposing animal ID at Conway July 9, 06, and certainly the most intense, was when Phil Wyrick, the government representative spoke. He basically tried to placate the audience and convince them he was one of them and that the government was there to help them. (He was wearing his cowboy hat while he spoke.) About 5 minutes into his presentation he stated the USDA (United States Department of Education), who is responsible for this ID plan, was not their enemy. At this point the crowd of about 300 revolted and erupted as the "Boston Tea Party" spirit overtook the crowd. They booed and yelled questions at him.

When Wyrick continued to try to speak, other comments were yelled out to him pointing out that the things he was saying did not align with the NAIS draft. It was evident that he was not getting anywhere with the crowd. They were too informed and too angry for him to have a chance with them. Wyrick is executive director of the Arkansas Livestock and Poultry Commission, a state agency that regulates livestock producers.

These people didn't accept for a minute this "government expert" propaganda for truth like so many legislators and others have done and are doing. They had studied the facts, had the documents on hand, knew the page numbers for reference, and knew the material better than the government expert and knew how to confront him –and confront him they did! After all, their very livelihood and freedom were at stake!

Doreen Hannes from Missouri with Liberty Ark Coalition followed Wyrick. She was passionate, focused, and indignant over the intrusive and destructive plan the government is trying to impose upon US citizens. She was articulate, blunt, and to the point. She informed Wyrick that it really didn't matter what he had to say – because when you deal with the government, it is the written rules and regulations that must be followed; and federal regulations trump state regulations and law. Then she pointed out some of those rules and regulations in the NAIS guidelines that are contrary to what Arkansans are being told. She asked how many had read the guidelines. Many in the crowd had. She held up the NAIS guidelines and asked Wyrick point blank if he had read them. He answered, " No, there are too many big words in it."

Hannes pointed out that the NAIS draft guidelines say the animal ID program will be mandatory on page 10 while people in Arkansans are being told it is voluntary and other falsehoods. She stated that once the federal plan is in place, the state plan will have little relevance. (Research confirms that the National Animal Identification System, State-Federal-Industry Draft Strategic Plan 2005-2009, does indeed say under the heading "Transition from Voluntary to Mandatory, Phased In Approach , "January 2009 – "The animal tracking component will become mandatory." p. 10. On page 9 the guidelines reads, " USDA will follow the normal rulemaking process in changing the status of NAIS from voluntary to mandatory.) 5 Link to these guidelines: http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/about/pdf/ NAIS_Draft_Strategic_Plan_42505.pdf
"NAIS was spawned by international entanglements," Hannes explained, "not by consumers and the need for protection from diseases as the public is being led to believe." She explained that we are now complying with the international mandates imposed by treaties that are violating our own constitution. WTO, SPS, TBT, FAO, Codex, and OIE (and how they interrelate with NAIS and the United Nations) were some of the acronyms and organizations she briefly discussed. 6

For rest of story with information on how some people "believe all gun owners should be required to have a microchip implanted in their hand to be able to own a gun", how this technogology is already availabe, and how some legislators in Arkansas stand on this issue,

click "Saturday" below and scroll down for the rest of the column, or if sent straight here just scroll down or go to this link for full story with all the documentation.

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Blogger Debbie Pelley said...

Evidently these so called uneducated farmers in Arkansas were not supposed to read these technical documents! (Oh the power of the internet!) They were supposed to believe the local experts. They are being told that every state is developing its own guidelines! This is technically true, but those guidelines will be useless once the mandatory federal guidelines are in place.

Hannes told how just a few days before she successfully worked with legislators in Missouri where legislators passed a joint Senate and House resolution to keep the animal ID program voluntary, and in an appropriation bill stated the Missouri Department of Agriculture could not make the program mandatory without state legislation being passed. 7

Hannes explained how the USDA was circumventing the legislative branch and allowing the Secretary of Agriculture dictatorial power. She referred to page 9 of the NAIS Draft of guidelines which says, "The Animal Health Protection Act (AHPA) ….provides ample authority to establish and implement either a mandatory or voluntary system of animal identification."

Hannes does not believe this Act gives this authority, based on her interpretation of the Act and does not believe it is constitutional. Two Congresses have tried, but failed, to pass legislation that would amend the Act to provide for a mandatory electronic tracking system for individual heads of livestock. Currently, there are three bills in Congress, trying to give postdated authority to the NAIS - HR 3170, and two companion bills, HR 1254 & 1256. If USDA is correct in asserting that it has authority, why does Congress keep attempting to pass legislation to give it to them? 8

Joel Gill from Mississippi explained how Animal ID will not prevent disease. Creekstone Farms in Kansas has actually sued the USDA because they won't allow them to test for mad cow disease – not even to satisfy Japanese import regulations so they can export their cattle. 9 (Research proves this is a true statement)
Japan has enough confidence in the test to require it and Consumers Union advocates testing every animal slaughtered in the United States.

Gill mentioned a new blood test for mad cow disease that could be in use in about 3 years for live cattle. 10 Joel Gill is the Southeastern Membership Chairman for R-CALF USA, a cattlemen's advocacy group.

While NAIS is now touted as needed for disease tracking, it was actually developed more than a year and a half before the first case of Mad Cow was found in the U.S. Further, "the first two cases of mad cow disease in the US came from Canada, and the USDA did not make this known for two months after the finding, leaving the world to believe they were of US origin, causing loss of exports for US farmers," Joel Gill stated. 11

Cattle could be imported from other countries without the same standards as US. Cattle. They can be chipped or tagged after they arrive here and then either mingle with the US cattle. Nothing in the standards would prevent these cattle from being sent directly to a slaughter house according to p 26 of the "Draft Program Standards".

Only the government could be blind enough to see that this fact in itself would defeat any possible disease control gained through animal ID in the US. It would also give many other countries an advantage in price competition since they don't have to pay for all the animal ID costs. 12

Gill explained how unreliable the database would be, explaining how cattle in Australia are taxed, and how one man was taxed for 1,500 cattle that he didn't have. Upon investigation it was learned that the Australia database had 11 million cattle on their database that didn't exist. Australia's identification system became mandatory in July 05. 13

In her written testimony to the US Senate Committee on Agriculture, on behalf of the Arkansas Animal Producers Association, Jane William states and told the crowd, "Large animal producers could market their animals by lots and use only one tag per house of animals whereas the small producer would need to tag every animal. The cost of a tag for fowl might well exceed the value of the bird. The small producer would need to tag every bird. Thousands of factory housed chickens or pigs could be slaughtered under one tag. This provision of NAIS establishes an unfair economic advantage for large producers.

There are no controls over what identification devices would cost. We are told that an electronic tag for a calf would cost about $3.00; however, Australians were told the same thing and they are now paying $35 to $37 per tag. In England the cost is reported to be $69 per animal." This would allow the large farmers to drive the small farmer out of business, Williams contends. 14

One opponent summed up the situation this way. Now ask yourself this; would you rather eat a cow that has been tested free of BSE (Mad Cow) or would you rather eat a cow that has a brand new NAIS compliant microchip and not tested and proven clean for BSE (mad cow disease) No brainier right? Well, our government doesn’t think it is scientific to test because they are not allowed by treaty without permission from other treaty holders." 15

Surely this Animal ID situation and Conway meeting brings to mind the passage from the Declaration of Independence. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

Jane William said she sent out invitations and information to all Arkansas legislators and asked for a show of hands of any of them that were present. Senator Jim Holt for Lt. Governor was the only one that was there to learn more about it.

This fact was not brought out at the meeting, but Arkansas US Representative Mike Ross co-sponsored two bills establishing a national electronic livestock identification system, H.R. 3787 in 2004, 108th Congress and H.R. 1254 in the 05-06 109th Congress. To read Ross's own comment on this bill, go to this link: http://agriculture.house.gov/hearings/108/10824.pdf pages 16 and 17 To read the bills he co-sponsored, see footnotes.. 16

Doreen Hannes made an interesting comment during her speech. She said first they experiment with the animals and then it will be the people. Research confirms that some people "believe all gun owners should be required to have a microchip implanted in their hand to be able to own a gun." Technology for this is already in place and being used in people. See this link for that article and scroll down to the end of the article for links to several other similar articles. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38038 17

Wonder why we are not hearing any of this on the evening news!

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Debbie Pelley

To read this article on line go to www.wpaag.org and scroll down on home page to New Items under the table and look for "Animal ID - Plan for Comp. Chip in All Animals"

2:22 PM, July 29, 2006  
Blogger Steve Harrelson said...

>>"Jane William said she sent out invitations and information to all Arkansas legislators and asked for a show of hands of any of them that were present."

She's right about that part -- well, at least I received an invitation but was out of state and unable to attend. Wish I had been there to witness that.

3:32 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dems and Repubs continue to sell us out. Our two-protected-parties system is destroying this country.

Tony Snow and GWB continue to distract us with halfhearted jabs at hot-button issues while they left-handedly steal more of our freedom in their quest to build the Empire of the Ages.

3:58 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Robbie Bullock said...

This tagging system is the most ridiculous thing I have heard of from our government recently and with all the lying and deceitful behavior of late, that is a bold statement. This is a wonderful example of government run amok in America. I thought Republicans were supposed to be fans of smaller government and less government intrusion. We should pull out of each one of these treaties and bring back our jobs and control of our own economy. If George Jr. really cared about average Americans and family farmers and ranchers (not dude ranchers like himself), he would do the same thing with these treaties that he did with Kyoto, just sign an executive order and give the high hard one to the rest of the treaty signers. We, as Americans, need to do something about government intrusion into every aspect of our lives, whether it be cattle and chicken tagging, unlawful phone tapping, or spying on peace activists. This has gone on too long and we need to fire every last one of them. Vote against every incumbent for the next 6 years and the problem will at least be on its way to being solved.

4:18 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

preach it!

6:45 PM, July 29, 2006  
Blogger Debbie Pelley said...

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6:57 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is one of the most frightening things I have seen in a long time.

If anyone disbelieves or scoffs at the Bible, they should read Revelelations again about the mark of the beast and consider this article and see just how real the Bible is.

Rev. 13:16 And he [the beast] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev 14:9 If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God...and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone.

I thought we were close to the end, but this technology and Animal ID plan and the fact that one company has forced employees to use a chip (links in the article) makes me realize in a different way just how close we reallly are.

6:57 PM

6:59 PM, July 29, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is just one story on this issue. There are more coming, including where it is being tried in humans.

6:05 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous onewhoknows said...

Rep. Harrellson,

I know she lurks here. You are bound to get an invite to the next one. She goes issue by issue and does not care about party. She will work with you. It does not matter if you disagree on everything else. The smartest legislators will jump on this one.

7:03 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jim Holt was the only legislator there and he has a knack for knowing which issues are going to be the "next big thing".

7:06 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Robbie Bullock said...

This has nothing to do with Revelations and everything to do with greed. This is not a sign of the end times. This is a treaty gone awry and big business (corporate farmers) trying to take advantage of it by forcing small farms out of business so they can fix prices like in the oil and gas business. But hey, if you have to conjure up hell fire and brimstone to get out and vote against these idiots then have at it.

9:33 AM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

Actually, that is about like I feel Robbie. PS- you have been busy this fine Sunday morning!

10:32 AM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This has nothing to do with Revelations...
Oh really?

...and everything to do with greed.
End time events and increased sin (e.g. greed) are not mutually exclusive, nor are they happenstance. In fact, they are in harmony, so to speak:

"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, without self control, fierce, despisers of those who are good, traitors, rash, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof..." II Tim 3:1-5

12:07 PM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger Debbie Pelley said...

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6:22 PM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger Harvey Edwards said...

I can see now I am going to have to step up my poultry training program. I need to get night vision goggles for my Roosters. This way they can warn the hens about straying off their property. Most important I want that Rooster to give me a crow when he sees the federalis approaching. Thats my high tech plan from a hick Arkie farmer.

8:53 PM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger Harvey Edwards said...

Someone mentioned the gas prices. I track the daily methanol prices. Methanol is like racing gasoline. Today it is $1.00 gal. So where does it become $5.00 a gallon at the pump.Its already refined . Just a tidbit of info from the biofuel guy.

8:57 PM, July 30, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see the end times and government control and greedy businessmen being mutually exclusive. Most of the people are being deceived and have no idea how they are being used in the events that bring on the end times. And I have no problem calling this gov't dictatorial approach and the greed evil. And all it take for eveil to triumph is for the good man to do nothing. We must fight back!

9:24 PM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger Liberty Mtn. said...

Yes, we had quite a start for ARAPA with the Conway meeting. And another meeting in Mulberry on July 29 drew a couple hundred more Arkansans. We have an outstanding Steering Committee that's off to a great start, and Species Representatives who are taking the bull by the horns and getting their groups going. Lots of action in just the last two or three weeks. But what we really need for all of you to do now is to JOIN. Put your money where your mouth is and spend the $10 per person for your membership. ARAPA is the only organization in this state right now that is representing the independent animal owner/producer. Tyson and Gang have had all the say - until now. Now YOU get to make your views and feelings known. Legislators are already being approached by ARAPA representatives to ready legislation for the next session. We don't have a lot of time to fight this - but we do have some very nervous pro-NAIS people over what ARAPA has already been able to accomplish. We are less than one month old. Go to the ARAPA website and look us over - http://arkansasanimalproducers.8k.com

10:28 PM, July 30, 2006  
Blogger rob_star said...

New Arkansas political blog that I just got up and running:

www.arkstar.blogspot.com

3:02 PM, July 31, 2006  
Anonymous Thumper/inOkla. said...

I was there, at the back of the room with the USDA Documents. When the booing started and I started calling out page numbers, several people began to leave their seats, I 1st thought they where going to leave the meeting, I was TRILLED as they came to me and asked to see the documents!!! The proof in black and white printed form! The USDA is lying about their plans, the shiny glossy booklets filled with photo's and a few nicey nice quotes, are not the whole story.

There are the Program Standards, the Stratgic Plan, the Techincal Suppliment, the Implementaion Strategies, the Federal Bills,
HR 1254, HR 1256, HR 3170 and local state level bills, in each state. To get the whole story you need to read them all.

Oklahoma's bills where killed in commity this year, yet the Dept of Agriculture Food and Forestry are passing out pamplets and sign up sheets with out the authorization of the State Legistlature.

As far as I know right now, those of us working against NAIS have not found how to get a name off of the data base once it is on, even if placed there without consent of the land owner.

I ask you, if I came on to your land and put my brand on your cows, .. what would that mean to you? (for those that don't understand branding, it means those cows are now mine, and I stole them free and clear)
That is what the USDA is doing with this program, you will not have the right to remove the tags once they are on, because they are no longer your animals.

3:33 PM, July 31, 2006  
Blogger Mr. Toast said...

Dang, that open government stuff sure does make it hard for them to carry out their schemes, no matter how much red tape they use.

They'll just have to take care of that nagging of/by/for the people annoyance.

As Bush said concerning his North American Union plan- "Hey, I'm not hiding anything- it's been on the web for months!" [paraphrased]

4:05 PM, July 31, 2006  

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