Thursday, June 11, 2009

Holcaust Museum Shooter Neo-Pagan Socialist, Not Conservative Christian

Odin, the Teutonic God of War.
Neo-Nazi James Wenneker Von Brunn entered the Holocaust Museum and shot dead a security guard before being gunned down himself. Many in the media, including Alan Combs, insinuated that Von Brunn was part of the conservative right in this country, near to the bloggers who visit "Free Republic" (A site I have been banned from because I would not tow the Bush-neocon line, but they don't deserve that sort of smear).

This is another effort to impart guilt through false allegations of association. As this thorough article in Front Page online documents, Von Brunner was not a right-winger, not a conservative, and not a Christian.

Von Brunn was a neo-pagan who believed that when the Germans gave up their worship of the pagan gods for a Jewish Messiah they lost their "virility". Indeed, in his contempt for the God of the Bible, Von Brunn sounds like a lot like the secularists who belittle the christian right.

Here is a sample of Von Brunn's writings from the Front Page story:"JEHOVAH, like Alley Oop, says whatever the scriptwriters print in the blurbs. Those who find it compelling to believe Yahweh created a flat earth, circa 5000 B.C., spoke from a burning bush, bared his buttocks, parted the Red Sea, and loves JEWS above all other nations,.... (p. 32.)"

Christianity is not spared from Von Brunner's wrath. He disses it almost as harshly as secular leftists do....."The Big Lie technique, employed by Paul to create the CHRISTIAN RELIGION, also was used to create the HOLOCAUST RELIGION ... CHRISTIANITY AND THE HOLOCAUST are HOAXES.

"Christianity" destroyed Roman Civilization. The "Holocaust" Religion is destroying Western Civilization. The Aryan gene-pool dies, "unwept, unhonored and unsung."

Just as the original NAZI moniker was a shortened form of "national SOCIALIST", the neo-nazi Von Brunn was a socialist of sorts. Not the soviet kind, because he believed that the Jewish Karl Marx distorted "good" socialism. "WESTERN SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West, and the end of JEWRY on Western soil." Von Brunner wrote.

Some on the left are attempting to use the deeds of the few to silence the free speech rights of the many, or intimidate us into silence. I categorically refused to give in to such bullying. This is especially true when the perpetrators of said violence are actually closer in their world view to the people who insist I should shut up than they are to my own views.


Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

What is more, I want you to remember that there have been several instances of gunmen walking into evangelical bible-believing churches and gunning people down, but the political/ideaological views of the gunmen are never examined.

Tim McViegh, and now Von Brunner are falsely portrayed as Christians, and on the basis of that false association there is a national call for conservative Christians to stop "inciting violence" by speaking out on issues they care about. There is NEVER a national call on leftists to tone down their hateful rhetoric towards Christians when a conservative church gets attacked. Like I said, we never get that far because the media never gets around to examining the ideological motives of those shooters.

Tim McVeigh and Von Brunner are falsely portrayed as christian-right, while the church shooters and the unibomber are portrayed as lone individuals, whose actions can not be tied to the rhetoric or beliefs of any larger group.

The corporate media is trying to pressure us away from Christianity, or anything with absolutes by which we might judge what they do or resist what they push. Don't be bullied.

5:02 PM, June 11, 2009  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

I'm not done. Remember what I said on the Tiller murder here...

No one from ABC NBC CBS CNN ever told Al Gore to tone down his rhetoric about the climate when the Unibomber went on his crime spree.

5:06 PM, June 11, 2009  
Blogger Cris Seligman said...

Oddly enough, you first make a point about "Free Republic" and that is a site where Von Brunn did indeed post his rantings. You talk about him not being "right wing" or a Christian. I'll buy the not-a-Christian thing, but I certainly don't buy the not-right-wing. Arguing that a lack of criticism against left wing loonies is a red herring, amigo. That doesn't change Von Brunn's stripes - he espoused many right-wing talking points, which I won't enumerate here. It's just that he was much further to the right of your group. That doesn't make the man a social-democrat, green, libertarian or anything else. If I'm to follow your line of reasoning, then I'd have to believe that Aryan Nations, the Klan and the Neo-Nazi movement aren't right-wing or conservative. Unfortunately, they hold many of the same beliefs your group does - they just go waaaaaay far further right. So, your post sounds like you've been stung by the media for your own ultra-conservative views, and wish to dis-associate yourself from other similar groups. Why not just follow Glen Beck and believe that "you" surround "them (the media)" and be proud of your beliefs and who you are? Own it, but don't distance yourself from another right winger to do that - to do that would be to court dishonesty. Your thoughts, o wise Constitutionalist?

12:59 AM, June 12, 2009  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

A man who signs in under his real name deserves a thoughtful response. I respect that you did that.

You think he espoused many right wing talking points but you "won't enumerate here" what they were? Do the research. Enumerate them -if you can find them. I believe you will be surprised at what you find.

This is guilt by false association, by lies, and you are buying into it. Von Brunner was a fascist, a statist who believed in big government, in government intervention. He was a socialist, as was Hitler. "Nazi" is a shortened form of "National Socialism". I stand with Ron Paul, the exact opposite of statism.

You write, "If I'm to follow your line of reasoning, then I'd have to believe that Aryan Nations, the Klan and the Neo-Nazi movement aren't right-wing or conservative". Believe it. At least two of those three are not right wing by any means. DO THE RESEARCH. Do not accept what the corporate media tells you on this.

The Neo-nazis and the Arayan nations are NOT conservative in the limited government sense of the word or in the christian-right sense of the word. Look it up.

Von Brunn posted on Free Republic. And you posted on Arkansas Watch. Does that mean you agree with us?

You assert "they hold many of the same beliefs your group does". Then name them, don't simply accept what the corporate media tells you. Its a smear.

I have actually quoted from Von Brunn's writings to show that his views towards Christianity, the Bible, and socialism are much more in tune with the secular left than the religious right. I am giving you direct quotes from his work. Don't just answer with bald assertions backed up by no evidence. DO THE RESEARCH.

Here is another place to start...

5:42 AM, June 12, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My boyfriend and I walk the same path - Northern European Heathenry, sometimes called Asatru by its adherents - and I'd like to take a moment to reassure any readers here that not all of us are loose cannons or gun-toting crazies with psychological issues.

I can't go into much detail right now, as I am typing this from work, but better to get a brief word out there than nothing at all.

8:01 AM, June 12, 2009  
Anonymous Watcher said...

"Oddly enough, you first make a point about "Free Republic" and that is a site where Von Brunn did indeed post his rantings."

No, he did not... a Free Republic user named "wannabegeek" cut-and-pasted some of von Brunn's more generic ranting there.

Even a cursory glance at wannabegeek's other posts shows that he couldn't possibly be von Brunn... here is the first post that shows up in a search for that username:
"Too late? Not really. I'm praying in Jesus Christ Name! that the SCOTUS will be vigilant enough, that they'll uphold the Constitution no matter what. I'll pray that they'll check mate the Zero!"

Now, why would someone who thinks Christianity as a hoax perpetrated by the Jews be praying to Jesus Christ? Wannabegeek may have some issues, but he's obviously not who you think he is.

1:27 AM, June 14, 2009  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

Sorry, I was going by media reports. I guess I should know better. They almost never get it right, as this story demonstrates.

6:55 AM, June 14, 2009  
Anonymous Chuck said...

Er, I don't want to rain on the parade here, but "tow the line" is an eggcorn. "toe the line" is the correct phrase.

The media will always portray crazed shooters as right-wing, the truth notwithstanding, unless it is blatantly obvious they're not (e.g., appearing to be of middle-east national origin or ethnicity). Christians, white males, and non-feminist/pro-life females are all fair game for the leftist personal destruction machine.

12:57 PM, June 15, 2009  
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12:18 AM, June 25, 2009  

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