Wednesday, April 21, 2010

I'm Just Say'n

For you to play back to back.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want a cheer leader. I want a Senator.
Tim Green

7:12 PM, April 21, 2010  
Anonymous Chuck said...

OK, Dean can name 13 states (but probably not the original 13) and Baker can spell his own last name.
Baker wins b/c there was no "yeeeaaaaaaayw" (or whatever Dean did) at the end of his.

7:48 AM, April 22, 2010  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

Truth is I didn't see what was so bad about Dean's at the time, nor do I think much bad about Baker's now. My main goal was for people to guard against the risk of hypocrisy. Many who would waive off Baker's self-cheer made a big deal out of Dean's cheer.

If one was any different than the other in essence, I would say that you can tell by Dean's expression at the very end that he is mostly having fun with it, while Baker is self-focused and serious about it to the end. Baker was also leading a cheer for himself while Dean was leading a cheer on behalf of another entity (albeit a criminal organization).

10:41 AM, April 22, 2010  
Anonymous Chuck said...

Between the two, I still give Baker the W.

As far as your statement of Baker's being self-focused/serious, and Dean's being on behalf of another entity, isn't self-promotion the essence of a politician, particularly during a campaign?

And while you say Dean led a cheer on behalf of another entity, his wasn't entirely pure either. If the Democratic party does well, he does well. There were self-focused motives on Dean's part, too.

12:07 PM, April 22, 2010  
Blogger Mark Moore (Moderator) said...

There is one degree of separation there, since Dean was pumping the party, while Baker was pumping Baker, but my main point is that I can't give either of them a "W" on this, and I can't give one an "L" on it without giving the other an "L". I am non-partisan, except for truth and justice.

3:38 PM, April 22, 2010  
Anonymous Chuck said...

Degrees of separation and being non-partison notwithstanding, both have something to gain from their actions, but I believe Baker's motives to be more altruistic than Dean's and that's why Baker gets the W from me.

7:34 AM, April 24, 2010  
Anonymous Mark Moore said...

fair enough.

10:23 AM, April 24, 2010  

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